Request For Quote- SERIOUS long-term vendor wanted

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nawed

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Hello
We are small machine shop with top of the line technology equipments .like 5 axis cnc machining center and three and four axis cnc machines and we have 25 years expiriance to do any kind of Machining jobs.we are located in Toronto , Canada .so better in pricing .we do not claim big but we relying on our dealing. You can call me 4169103680 or message me at nawed@qualitymachining.ca
Thanks
 

Dualkit

Member
Hello, I cannot read dates and don't pay attention. I would like to respond to this 5 year old thread to a troll who was just playing people.
Hope everyone's sarcasm meter works.
 

JP Mach

Shop owner
Hello, I cannot read dates and don't pay attention. I would like to respond to this 5 year old thread to a troll who was just playing people.
Hope everyone's sarcasm meter works.
Lol, And knowing they can't read a simple date on a forum thread, makes you wonder if they can read a print correctly.
 

armandoesponda

New Member
Hello i am very interested in your add!

Took a while to correctly register, I'm goddamn blue/green colorblind so squinting at that Captcha code had me blind as a bat and about two beans short of a burrito by the time I got it right.

I'm part owner of a small company in Southern California. We've been in business almost 10 years. We design and make billet and cast metal parts, mostly aluminum. We do not do any machining in-house at this time.

We have a few really good vendors who we stick with, period.

For mill and lathe work, we have tried small shops, who want to overcharge because they didn't buy better equipment so it takes them longer.

We have tried shops with incredible equipment (new 5-axis Mori with ALL the bells and whistles), but every time a juicier job comes along, our stuff is late.

We have tried big shops, but they don't meet deadlines because they are more focused on the big jobs.

We have tried MFG, and even though we only tried the shops who were not lowballing, we found flakes, dreamers, people looking for easy money, or people who de-prioritized us every time a bigger job came around.

We have tried expensive shops, who claimed and probably believed they were King Sh*t, and act like they are doing us a favor for doing our work because of how serious they are about making great parts on time or because of how smart or precise they are. They turned out to be the same as everyone else: talk is cheap.

We are looking for a company that can AND WILL do the following:

  • Deliver when you say you will.
  • Follow instructions. If we say "Do not run production until first article approval," don't even begin running parts. If the machine is all set up and you are face with turning away other jobs, either tell us we need to approve it in X time or tell us what our options are.
  • Do prototypes or hot jobs quickly without gouging us because we are in need. In return, prototypes will turn into production at YOUR shop, not a lowballer's.
  • Do high quality work, as if you cared. Meaning, the parts have a nice finish and all look the same. USA pride, not Chinese factory Don't-Give-a-Crap.
  • Do work off time and materials. Don't feel us out to try to get more, or ask us what we will pay.
  • TRY REALLY HARD. Push! Move! Hustle! Act as if it's important! If the anodizer says "One week turnaround" on a hot job, ask if they can possibly do it sooner. Etc.!
  • Give 30 day billing. We have AWESOME credit with our vendors.
  • If you do not have a 5-axis (or 4-axis, or 3-axis) machine, do not expect us to overpay for you to do it inefficiently. Make efficient fixtures.
  • Please do not try to rape us on fixtures or setup charges. We will go somewhere else. Our favorite vendors do not charge setups or fixtures, or if they do, they are efficient and FAST. In return we can give repeat orders.
  • Do NOT ask us what motor vehicle or engine a particular part fits. I appreciate that you may be a car/boat/truck/4x4/ATV/motorcycle/watercraft guy. Sorry.
  • Do NOT take credit for OUR parts, or minimize the value of our engineering or rep by telling people "We make their stuff for them". How about "They are one of our customers."?
  • Do NOT approach our competitors. If you want to increase the business, serve us well and we will give you as much of our work as possible.
  • Do NOT approach our customers. If we send a print with another company's logo on it, do not call them up for any reason.
  • Do NOT decide that my company is making the lion's share of the profits on this or that part, and that you are doing all work (you're not), and try to go into our business. We are not a machine shop and You are not an engineering house that designs products, develops products, or sells products. Machining is a lot harder than people think and so is what we do. If you get any sneaky ideas, we will pummel you mercilessly. It has happened before.

What do we offer?

  • Ongoing work. We aren't big but we are growing every month, hence our need to find a vendor who won't hold us back.
  • We pay. In full and on time.
  • Fairness. Meaning, if a job ends up being more work than you quoted, let us know and we will work with you. But for pete's sake, do the same: if run time is less than you estimated, let us know the price came in a few bucks less per part. The money will come back to you many times over.
  • Good files/prints/drawings
  • Easy to deal with.
  • Realistic expectations to go with our high standards.
  • Loyalty. We are looking for a manufacturing PARTNER. Meaning, we prioritize your needs and you prioritize ours. We have each other's back. We are paying a premium to make everything in the USA, by our clear and conscience decision. It costs us extra money just to put money in your pocket. Make us glad we did!
  • Price is very important but our goal is not to drive our costs as low as possible. It's to get as much VALUE as we can, as affordably as we can. But we cannot pay you a premium just because you think very highly of yourself!


Our long term goal is that you cherish our account because of all the money we give you, and we cherish your services because of all the money you help us make. When another shop calls us offering to save a couple of bucks per part, we want to say, "No, it's not worth it. OUR GUY TAKES CARE OF US." When you think about doing one of the things on the "Do/Don't" list above (whether it's being late because you put another job before us; going around us; etc.) we want you to think, "I cannot do that. THESE GUYS TAKE CARE OF ME."

Capische?

Think about it really hard before responding. We don't need someone who doesn't meet those needs. We already work with shops like that.

If you have personal issues, you have my sympathies and I wish you nothing but the best, but it will go badly between us so don't contact me. But if you truly can and will do the above arrangement and want a customer like us, let's talk.

Thanks for reading.

Hello i am very interested in your add, i own a small but efficient tool room with conventional and cnc equipment, use to had a strong relation with customers but unfortunatly las one got out of bussiness and 90 % of what we made was for them. i am in southern california. Use Mastercam for programing and autocad for drafting

Please contact me at miba.mex@hotmail.com or 619 4513618

Regards!
Armando Esponda
 

vivclle2014

New Member
Hi

How are you


Pls contact us via email:vivclle@hotmail.com

RUISING MAO TECHNOLOGY is a professional manufacturer of precision which have history over 10 year,so have rich experience and stable products quality

We own dozen of advanced equipment,20 sets Grinding,10sets horizontal milling,10 sets CNC milling,10 sets CNC center,EDM 10 sets,drilling 5 sets,which can provide customer many kinds machining service,we also can machining many kind material


Sincerly hope have chance cooperation with you
 

JTKMFG

New Member
good afternoon,
we are a VET owned cnc machine shop. we would like to be considered to price this out for you and gain your business.
give us a call 585-330-8466
and email over and solid models-CAD files if you have them or a print to JTKEngineering@yahoo.com

thank you for your time
JD
 

JTKMFG

New Member
hey man,
I looked at the date and seen this as new... what do you mean by obvious troll? if it is 5 years old you can always network with people still, last time I looked this is a place for networking also so if anyone needs help there is a list of people to use. right???

if I messed up sorry as our company is new to this site.

JD
 

Bob Henry

New Member
We would be interested in working with your company. As we have a full machine shop that we are looking to Expand to do more outside work.
Please email me and we can talk.
My Name is Bob Henry and my company is Azuradisc in Mesa Arizona
Email is bhenry@azuradisc.com
Phone is 480-448-2089
 

Dualkit

Member
hey man,
I looked at the date and seen this as new... what do you mean by obvious troll? if it is 5 years old you can always network with people still, last time I looked this is a place for networking also so if anyone needs help there is a list of people to use. right???

if I messed up sorry as our company is new to this site.

JD

The first post is 12-10-2009 how is that new? A troll is someone who voices an opinion outside their own for a reaction or someone playing a roll. The guy was just screwing with people. A Goggle search for his company in California turned up nothing. PM Engineering did not exist, if they had been in business for years like he claimed a search would have turned up hits, but nothing. I knew he was full of crap reading his first post. I belong to another board where a 14 year old High School student posed at a middle aged owner of a multi million dollar manufacturing business, complete with pictures of his huge shop. He kept picking fights with people calling them losers because he was rich. His dad caught him and posted that it was all fake and apologized.
 

delia84212

New Member
View attachment GOOD CHEAP FAST.jpgHi, i'm replying not for order but to say sorry to hear what you faced before. Hope they are not all from China. There are headache vendors in every country, not only in China.

As a supplier, i would like to let you know it's not easy for a good vendor to get all customers qualified too. We are a medium machine shop from China. We always only promise what we can do and do manage what we promised. JIT delivery can be ensured. We agree with sample approval. We even suggest sample approval for complex parts if the customers don't require it. Because we must be responsible for the parts we made from the beginning to the very end.

Uncertain points should be confirmed before order. But many customers usually choose the cheapest vendor no matter they really can meet the requirement or not. They are expecting cheaper and cheaper no matter the price is reasonable or not. Some customers pretend that they are disappeared from this world after they receive our quotation. We feel not respected and surely stop continuing with such buyers. They are not worth our time and effort.

We prefer to professional buyers. They are professional on products and know what price is reasonable, not always choose the lowest price. They have good skill of contact and always respect the serious vendor though sometime their quoting is not in their consideration range.

Here is a saying i like very much. Share with you. Hope you can find a satisfied vendor and have short run-in time with each other.Good luck!

View attachment GOOD CHEAP FAST.jpg
 

bare

New Member
Machining Help

Hello
If you don't mind working with a shop in the midwest send us your drawing so we can talk.

Thanks
Bill
Bare Metals Inc
773.283.2211




Took a while to correctly register, I'm goddamn blue/green colorblind so squinting at that Captcha code had me blind as a bat and about two beans short of a burrito by the time I got it right.

I'm part owner of a small company in Southern California. We've been in business almost 10 years. We design and make billet and cast metal parts, mostly aluminum. We do not do any machining in-house at this time.

We have a few really good vendors who we stick with, period.

For mill and lathe work, we have tried small shops, who want to overcharge because they didn't buy better equipment so it takes them longer.

We have tried shops with incredible equipment (new 5-axis Mori with ALL the bells and whistles), but every time a juicier job comes along, our stuff is late.

We have tried big shops, but they don't meet deadlines because they are more focused on the big jobs.

We have tried MFG, and even though we only tried the shops who were not lowballing, we found flakes, dreamers, people looking for easy money, or people who de-prioritized us every time a bigger job came around.

We have tried expensive shops, who claimed and probably believed they were King Sh*t, and act like they are doing us a favor for doing our work because of how serious they are about making great parts on time or because of how smart or precise they are. They turned out to be the same as everyone else: talk is cheap.

We are looking for a company that can AND WILL do the following:

  • Deliver when you say you will.
  • Follow instructions. If we say "Do not run production until first article approval," don't even begin running parts. If the machine is all set up and you are face with turning away other jobs, either tell us we need to approve it in X time or tell us what our options are.
  • Do prototypes or hot jobs quickly without gouging us because we are in need. In return, prototypes will turn into production at YOUR shop, not a lowballer's.
  • Do high quality work, as if you cared. Meaning, the parts have a nice finish and all look the same. USA pride, not Chinese factory Don't-Give-a-Crap.
  • Do work off time and materials. Don't feel us out to try to get more, or ask us what we will pay.
  • TRY REALLY HARD. Push! Move! Hustle! Act as if it's important! If the anodizer says "One week turnaround" on a hot job, ask if they can possibly do it sooner. Etc.!
  • Give 30 day billing. We have AWESOME credit with our vendors.
  • If you do not have a 5-axis (or 4-axis, or 3-axis) machine, do not expect us to overpay for you to do it inefficiently. Make efficient fixtures.
  • Please do not try to rape us on fixtures or setup charges. We will go somewhere else. Our favorite vendors do not charge setups or fixtures, or if they do, they are efficient and FAST. In return we can give repeat orders.
  • Do NOT ask us what motor vehicle or engine a particular part fits. I appreciate that you may be a car/boat/truck/4x4/ATV/motorcycle/watercraft guy. Sorry.
  • Do NOT take credit for OUR parts, or minimize the value of our engineering or rep by telling people "We make their stuff for them". How about "They are one of our customers."?
  • Do NOT approach our competitors. If you want to increase the business, serve us well and we will give you as much of our work as possible.
  • Do NOT approach our customers. If we send a print with another company's logo on it, do not call them up for any reason.
  • Do NOT decide that my company is making the lion's share of the profits on this or that part, and that you are doing all work (you're not), and try to go into our business. We are not a machine shop and You are not an engineering house that designs products, develops products, or sells products. Machining is a lot harder than people think and so is what we do. If you get any sneaky ideas, we will pummel you mercilessly. It has happened before.

What do we offer?

  • Ongoing work. We aren't big but we are growing every month, hence our need to find a vendor who won't hold us back.
  • We pay. In full and on time.
  • Fairness. Meaning, if a job ends up being more work than you quoted, let us know and we will work with you. But for pete's sake, do the same: if run time is less than you estimated, let us know the price came in a few bucks less per part. The money will come back to you many times over.
  • Good files/prints/drawings
  • Easy to deal with.
  • Realistic expectations to go with our high standards.
  • Loyalty. We are looking for a manufacturing PARTNER. Meaning, we prioritize your needs and you prioritize ours. We have each other's back. We are paying a premium to make everything in the USA, by our clear and conscience decision. It costs us extra money just to put money in your pocket. Make us glad we did!
  • Price is very important but our goal is not to drive our costs as low as possible. It's to get as much VALUE as we can, as affordably as we can. But we cannot pay you a premium just because you think very highly of yourself!


Our long term goal is that you cherish our account because of all the money we give you, and we cherish your services because of all the money you help us make. When another shop calls us offering to save a couple of bucks per part, we want to say, "No, it's not worth it. OUR GUY TAKES CARE OF US." When you think about doing one of the things on the "Do/Don't" list above (whether it's being late because you put another job before us; going around us; etc.) we want you to think, "I cannot do that. THESE GUYS TAKE CARE OF ME."

Capische?

Think about it really hard before responding. We don't need someone who doesn't meet those needs. We already work with shops like that.

If you have personal issues, you have my sympathies and I wish you nothing but the best, but it will go badly between us so don't contact me. But if you truly can and will do the above arrangement and want a customer like us, let's talk.

Thanks for reading.
 

big igg

New Member
OMG your killing me...... LOL

Please see the date of when this form was started.

They should close this thread LOL
 
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