Request For Quote- SERIOUS long-term vendor wanted

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benji2505

benji2505

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same here

We also saw a lot of effects of remaining budgets in November and December, but we also talked to customers that said all budgets were frozen for 2009 and they would be able to act in 2010 again, so let us hope for the best.

The MFG discussion is always the same: these numbers are just BS. BTW, the high number came from large numbers in sectors that did not have anything to do with manufacturing.

Happy new Year 2k10.
 
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contract_machining_inc

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benji2505 said:
We also saw a lot of effects of remaining budgets in November and December, but we also talked to customers that said all budgets were frozen for 2009 and they would be able to act in 2010 again, so let us hope for the best.

The MFG discussion is always the same: these numbers are just BS. BTW, the high number came from large numbers in sectors that did not have anything to do with manufacturing.

Happy new Year 2k10.
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Yes, we have also heard similiar from customers. Despite the major contraction in required capacity those of us left should be doing better this coming year. I did learn a very good lesson from all of this nonsense, don't burn up the cash reserves hoping for a better month. This next time the company will be sold or shut down before the strong run ends then just hunker down and start over when growth begins.
 
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Darren Hutchinson

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Sir,
My name is Darren Hutchinson, my father and I have a machine shop near seattle Washington it is called H & H Machine. We have been manufacturing component parts for the last 30 years. We can meet your requirments and usually exceed expectations.
We are focused on quality first, we want the products we make to show up looking better than our customers hoped. just as important is delivering products when we say we will, We assume that a customer may be building a multi million dollar project and the last thing we want, is to be the one holding up the show. We have missed a delivery date 1 time in the last 8 years, which is about the standard average for the last 30 years.
We use our machine as a cell that is made up of 3 cnc machines and 3 manual machines,1 of those is a lathe.
Please send us RFQ's and igs, pdf, dxf and dwg files to darren_hutchinson@hotmail.com
phone = 425-776-1994 / 425-778-0809
fax = please call first 425-776-1994
Thank you
Darren
H & H Machine






PM Engineering said:
Took a while to correctly register, I'm goddamn blue/green colorblind so squinting at that Captcha code had me blind as a bat and about two beans short of a burrito by the time I got it right.

I'm part owner of a small company in Southern California. We've been in business almost 10 years. We design and make billet and cast metal parts, mostly aluminum. We do not do any machining in-house at this time.

We have a few really good vendors who we stick with, period.

For mill and lathe work, we have tried small shops, who want to overcharge because they didn't buy better equipment so it takes them longer.

We have tried shops with incredible equipment (new 5-axis Mori with ALL the bells and whistles), but every time a juicier job comes along, our stuff is late.

We have tried big shops, but they don't meet deadlines because they are more focused on the big jobs.

We have tried MFG, and even though we only tried the shops who were not lowballing, we found flakes, dreamers, people looking for easy money, or people who de-prioritized us every time a bigger job came around.

We have tried expensive shops, who claimed and probably believed they were King Sh*t, and act like they are doing us a favor for doing our work because of how serious they are about making great parts on time or because of how smart or precise they are. They turned out to be the same as everyone else: talk is cheap.

We are looking for a company that can AND WILL do the following:

  • Deliver when you say you will.
  • Follow instructions. If we say "Do not run production until first article approval," don't even begin running parts. If the machine is all set up and you are face with turning away other jobs, either tell us we need to approve it in X time or tell us what our options are.
  • Do prototypes or hot jobs quickly without gouging us because we are in need. In return, prototypes will turn into production at YOUR shop, not a lowballer's.
  • Do high quality work, as if you cared. Meaning, the parts have a nice finish and all look the same. USA pride, not Chinese factory Don't-Give-a-Crap.
  • Do work off time and materials. Don't feel us out to try to get more, or ask us what we will pay.
  • TRY REALLY HARD. Push! Move! Hustle! Act as if it's important! If the anodizer says "One week turnaround" on a hot job, ask if they can possibly do it sooner. Etc.!
  • Give 30 day billing. We have AWESOME credit with our vendors.
  • If you do not have a 5-axis (or 4-axis, or 3-axis) machine, do not expect us to overpay for you to do it inefficiently. Make efficient fixtures.
  • Please do not try to rape us on fixtures or setup charges. We will go somewhere else. Our favorite vendors do not charge setups or fixtures, or if they do, they are efficient and FAST. In return we can give repeat orders.
  • Do NOT ask us what motor vehicle or engine a particular part fits. I appreciate that you may be a car/boat/truck/4x4/ATV/motorcycle/watercraft guy. Sorry.
  • Do NOT take credit for OUR parts, or minimize the value of our engineering or rep by telling people "We make their stuff for them". How about "They are one of our customers."?
  • Do NOT approach our competitors. If you want to increase the business, serve us well and we will give you as much of our work as possible.
  • Do NOT approach our customers. If we send a print with another company's logo on it, do not call them up for any reason.
  • Do NOT decide that my company is making the lion's share of the profits on this or that part, and that you are doing all work (you're not), and try to go into our business. We are not a machine shop and You are not an engineering house that designs products, develops products, or sells products. Machining is a lot harder than people think and so is what we do. If you get any sneaky ideas, we will pummel you mercilessly. It has happened before.

What do we offer?

  • Ongoing work. We aren't big but we are growing every month, hence our need to find a vendor who won't hold us back.
  • We pay. In full and on time.
  • Fairness. Meaning, if a job ends up being more work than you quoted, let us know and we will work with you. But for pete's sake, do the same: if run time is less than you estimated, let us know the price came in a few bucks less per part. The money will come back to you many times over.
  • Good files/prints/drawings
  • Easy to deal with.
  • Realistic expectations to go with our high standards.
  • Loyalty. We are looking for a manufacturing PARTNER. Meaning, we prioritize your needs and you prioritize ours. We have each other's back. We are paying a premium to make everything in the USA, by our clear and conscience decision. It costs us extra money just to put money in your pocket. Make us glad we did!
  • Price is very important but our goal is not to drive our costs as low as possible. It's to get as much VALUE as we can, as affordably as we can. But we cannot pay you a premium just because you think very highly of yourself!


Our long term goal is that you cherish our account because of all the money we give you, and we cherish your services because of all the money you help us make. When another shop calls us offering to save a couple of bucks per part, we want to say, "No, it's not worth it. OUR GUY TAKES CARE OF US." When you think about doing one of the things on the "Do/Don't" list above (whether it's being late because you put another job before us; going around us; etc.) we want you to think, "I cannot do that. THESE GUYS TAKE CARE OF ME."

Capische?

Think about it really hard before responding. We don't need someone who doesn't meet those needs. We already work with shops like that.

If you have personal issues, you have my sympathies and I wish you nothing but the best, but it will go badly between us so don't contact me. But if you truly can and will do the above arrangement and want a customer like us, let's talk.

Thanks for reading.
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Dualkit

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I think anyone posting testimonials to the original poster is wasting their time, if anyone received any positive correspondence from him, please speak up.
 
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contract_machining_inc

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Dualkit said:
I think anyone posting testimonials to the original poster is wasting their time, if anyone received any positive correspondence from him, please speak up.
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Heeeeee Heeeeeeeeee Heeeeeeeee Heeeeeeee Heeeeeee, ( I am trying to immitate Francis the talking mule laughing, since every one thinks I am a real ass)
Cold weather must bring out the trolls
 
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Dualkit

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The op played everyone as a chump, seeing how many desperate people would drop their drawers and beg for work. It seems quite a few did just that, I am sure he had a good laugh. Please people, no matter how desperate you are,
don't let a buyer know that. The desperate masses are dragging this profession straight into the ground. Please do not publicly embarrass yourself, it reflects poorly on all of us. I have seen too many people on these boards proudly proclaim all the services they donate to customers, free programming, free set-ups, free shipping, free material, etc,etc. It must be pretty sad, that you feel you are so worthless, that you will work for no charge, when will it end?
 
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Dualkit

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Cold for Riverside Ca, day time highs only 65-70 night time lows in the low 40s.
I always battle overheat alarms in the summer, I open the cabinets and point fans inside. My favorite alarm is "Spindle Servo Fan Failure" when the stupid machine has no fan in the servo unit and never had one.
 
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Freestyle CNC

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I do not visit or post here often because I am looking for serious and long term customers and I am not sure that this is the site for that (if there is one). I too thought about spelling out my terms (as a supplier) like the original postee but thought it might be a little off-putting. It was a little. Although I do like the up front honesty and expectations. I am not a salesman and dont know how to BS my way into a customer relationship like some do. I would rather let the quality of my work and honesty be the foundation to build a successfull business relationship on. So if the true intent of the original post was to be up front and honest then good for him. I hope that it was an attempt to keep things strictly business and straight to the point to maybe weed out some of the possible bad situations. Although I believe in great customer service and being polite and honest at all times, I would not mind letting the quality, precision, overall appearance and on time delivery do all the talking for me.

Thank you
Gus
Freestyle CNC
freestylecnc.com
 
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contract_machining_inc

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Freestyle CNC said:
I do not visit or post here often because I am looking for serious and long term customers and I am not sure that this is the site for that (if there is one). I too thought about spelling out my terms (as a supplier) like the original postee but thought it might be a little off-putting. It was a little. Although I do like the up front honesty and expectations. I am not a salesman and dont know how to BS my way into a customer relationship like some do. I would rather let the quality of my work and honesty be the foundation to build a successfull business relationship on. So if the true intent of the original post was to be up front and honest then good for him. I hope that it was an attempt to keep things strictly business and straight to the point to maybe weed out some of the possible bad situations. Although I believe in great customer service and being polite and honest at all times, I would not mind letting the quality, precision, overall appearance and on time delivery do all the talking for me.

Thank you
Gus
Freestyle CNC
freestylecnc.com
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Gus,
The cold hard fact is you need to be able to "buy" your way into a large company. Sorry, I hate being the big negative thinking realist but at some point the real world must be analyzed. A very large number of shops like to pad the purchasing people with tickets to the Indy 500 and other things. I don't play that game, thats why my company was dramatically downsized and that is why I can still sleep at nite. The other problem is many of the these metal working guys have no business sense what so ever, I am talking about the low ballers. They fantasize about getting established with a large company by doing the job for less than some one else did it for. They are the biggest idiots in the industry. First the company your cutting your profits for, into negative numbers, is making more money,not the job shopper and they have no intentions to share it with you. In the long term keep up your good communication skills and excellent customer service, it will pay off because the good customers will be loyal to your shop.
 
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El Gringo

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sometimes
we must look inward
to see that the source of our woes-
is in the manner in which we behave.....
blessed are those
who can see that their relationships
are like behavioral mirrors
between buyers and vendors
 
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tomkms

Owner & Operator CNC Shop
I am interested in quoting and looking at your work.
Kepler's Machine Shop
703-754-8962
 
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derek08rk

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Hi My name is Derek and i have 10 VMC mills and a M-H4B Horizantal as well as a Mazak Lathe and wier EDM. I have no over head as all my equipment is payed off. i offer quality work at a quality price. offer 30 or 60 net depending on how payment is after first couple of PO's. We are on time and have a full inspection cert. room with a cert CMM. Nothing leaves my shop with out a cert on material and inspection you can reach me at derekcnc8@yahoo.com
 
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vtechpoona

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sir
we are an indian company intrested in joining with your company as vendor for suppling machined parts ,castings,forgings, finish machined parts including heat treatment plating galvanizing etc
we are one of the best quality mfg parts suppliers with timely and cost compitative
please send us your enqiery and your advise

v tech
india
mr kulkarni

mail id vtechpune@hotmail.com
 
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W2machining

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Sir I am a start up company in the US. We have a CNC shop. Mills and Lathes. My partner and I have been in the business for over 30 years each. We are both old tool and die makers. Have also build molds for years. There in not much we can not do. Would like to see if we could team up with you to do some of your work.
Thanks,
Gary
gary@w2machining.com
 
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